User talk:Katherine Bavage (WMUK)

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First week![edit | edit source]

Hi All - my first week in the Offices in Old Street as a new member of staff seems to be going OK! I've got the IT set up and running, and I'm due to meet up with The Land tomorrow to talk 2012 Fundraiser - exciting stuff :) - Bavage 16:08, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the wiki! --Tango (talk) 16:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello! The Land (talk) 17:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Training the Trainers/February 2013 event[edit | edit source]


I have posted a message for you after where you signed up at Training the Trainers/February 2013 event

Yaris678 (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I have also started a discussion about the location of the February train the trainer course that you've signed up to. You might be interested in commenting - see Talk:Training the Trainers/February 2013 event. Thanks, Bazonka (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Newsletter piece on Liverpool meetup[edit | edit source]

Hi Katherine,

I could write a piece on the Liverpool meetup if you like. One of the things I would like to talk about is the spectrum of levels of experience there. The was one guy who had never edited, someone who had created her first article and then there was Rich Farmbrough, one of the few editors to have made more than 1 million edits.

Yaris678 (talk) 16:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Katherine,
Did you get the text I sent you? I used the "email this user" facility in Wikipedia.
Is that text suitable for the newsletter?
Yaris678 (talk) 09:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Booo I don't appear to have received it :( Can email my staff email address instead? Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 10:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Cascading protection[edit | edit source]

Hi Kat, I just wanted to query this. Not the protection itself, just the cascading bit. I wanted to make sure that you're aware that ticking that box means that anything transcluded on the page (eg any images or templates) will also be protected for as long as they appear on that page while the "cascading" option is enabled. Is that what you intended to do (if it is, I'll leave you alone)? Harry Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:39, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Yikes, well spotted - no I didn't, I want everyone to edit and reuse all the lovely pages and photos as much as possible, if not more. Good think I check work stuff at night? :/ Thanks so much for the heads up Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 21:42, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
To be fair, all of the images being used on that page are on Commons, so wouldn't had been affected by cascading protection anyway even if intended. -- KTC (talk) 23:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Volunteer and Trustee Security checklist[edit | edit source]

Hi Katherine. I've reverted [1] as it appears to add a page to a board-approved policy, which shouldn't happen without board approval... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Guys, I'm sure there is an intelligent way we can use the wiki for this sort of thing. e.g. A hat note that points to the version which has been approved by the board and says something like "subsequent changes represent suggested changes to the policy. These changes are part of community discussion. At some stage, these changes (or different changes) may be approved by the board." Yaris678 (talk) 09:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Just replied to Fae on water cooler to say it is draft, but not really intended as a policy, so I'll re-categorise... I agree, we need a better mechanism for being able to update policies when operational circumstances render them irrelevant/outdtated as they were last approved - this will probably happen fairly frequently with IT security policies and a changing and growing volunteer base. I would welcome someone writing up a process with matching templates and would use them faithfully! :) Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Separating out policy from procedure and checklists would be a good approach to take here. Policies need board approval to make changes to, which will naturally be a fairly slow and thoughtful process, while procedures and checklists can be updated as operational circumstances need. We've tried the hatnote approach that Yaris suggests before, but sadly it led to confusion as to what was the active version - that approach would work better if we had pending changes, but otherwise setting up a proposed revision e.g. like [2] is the better approach to take. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
+1 to pending changes. -- (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply[edit | edit source]

Hello Katherine, I replied at User talk:Romaine. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 00:47, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiki migration notice[edit | edit source]

The hosting for this site will be migrated from the Foundation's datacenter to the Wikimedia UK's over the last week-end of September (28-29th September). It will not be possible to migrate non-public account information. This includes watch lists, account preferences, contact email, or current password for registered users. We will recreate 'stub-accounts' on the migrated site and will communicate to you your new password if you activate "Enable email from other users" in your user profile now! Want to know more? WMUK Wiki Migration Team (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Domain names[edit | edit source]

Hi Katherine, thanks for working on sorting out the contacts for the WMUK domain names. :-) They still seem to need a bit of work, though. Looking through the whois database, the current situation is as follows:

  • Where I am the named contact and my WMUK email address is listed, and the registration name is still 'Wiki UK Limited', but the postal address is the office:
  • Where I'm the named registrant (and apparently I'm trading under my name), but the postal address is the office:
  • Where I'm the named contact, and they are still registered to 'Wiki UK Limited':
  • Where the contact is Jon and the address is up to date, but they are still registered to 'Wiki UK Limited':
  • Where no contact is specified, and they are still registered to 'Wiki UK Limited' (but are otherwise up to date):

Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help sort these out. Also, as a BTW, I'd recommend using a dedicated email address for domain registrations that redirects to a couple of people rather than using Jon's address (particularly to avoid issues during vacations, but also to make sure that the people that are managing the domains get the relevant emails directly) - perhaps something like domains@, or perhaps the tech mailing list could be used for this? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey Mike! Thanks for this - I'm a bit snowed under this week so is it OK if I put this in my calendar for Monday? All good suggestions thank you, and I will let you know if there is anything I need from you :D Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 08:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit | edit source]

Cute grey kitten.jpg

Wikilove extension is now installed :)

Kelson (talk) 20:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Manchester[edit | edit source]

Cheers for the note about the Manchester meetup, but I'm not now going to be able to make it. It will cost me about £50+food more than a return trip to York and I just can't justify that to myself at the moment. :( Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 00:10, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A very belated thank you[edit | edit source]

I don't appear to have said thank you for the barnstar you gave me last month, so thank you! I've just got around to adding it to my collection on en.wp :) Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 17:04, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Anti-Bribery Policy[edit | edit source]

Hi Kat. I've made some copyedit changes to Anti-Bribery Policy - I hope that's OK, please feel free to revert my changes if they aren't helpful. As a general suggestion, it might be good to more cleanly separate background from policy here - I think that everything up to the 'Responsibilities' section is background information set out by the government, and everything after that is WMUK-specific policy, but that's not entirely clear. Also, "Any relevant staff, Trustees and Volunteers" is a bit ambiguous as it's unclear how the relevant people would be identified; is there a way that could be made more specific? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Well given that the previous version has been circulated to Trustees...I'll have a ponder today as I object to none of your changes. I can probably circulate a diff on the day for people to consider but I'll run it past Jon and Chris.
In terms of the 'Staff' and 'Trustees' bit - I think that's clear i.e. people we have paid as staff or formally elected/coopted as Trustees. I'll check with Daria how this will apply to Wikipedian's in Residence (I suspect case by case basis, as each contract has been somewhat customised). Volunteers - I think its fair that if someone is acting in a voluntary capacity for the charity and making/recommending purchasing choices this applies to them. I can add notes on the policy talk page if need be? Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 09:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. :-) I think this demonstrates why I prefer seeing things circulated on-wiki rather than by paper - changes can easily be followed on-wiki, while trying to keep track of changes by paper is far too 19th century. How would you expect trustees to suggest changes to this document at the meeting if it's just in paper format? Circulating a diff on the day via the projector screen would make a lot of sense to me.
It sounds like the staff/trustees/volunteers bit is clear in your mind (and the staff's mind in general), but it would be better to write that down in the policy itself if possible. If it can't be added to the policy, then having the expectations recorded on the talk page is a reasonable alternative? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Leeds meetup[edit | edit source]

Hi Katherine, RexxS suggested that I got in touch with you about the next Leeds meetup. We've held 2 meetups in Leeds so far - the last one being 15 March. Not the busiest meetups, but they show promise and so we're keen to continue them. We wondered if you'd like to come along to the next one, and if so, what date would suit you? From my point of view at least, a Saturday would be best. Maybe in May or June? Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 21:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes please! I keep meaning to be there but lack of planning in advance etc doesn't help. I could probably arrange to get this promoted through the local university networks as well if we want to encourage some more new editors and students to attend? ANYWAY I would prefer late May or June as I'm probably busy in the first two weekends May - the more notice I have the more I can definitely plan to be there by booking cheap travel and the more people I can drag along. EXCITING :D Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 11:15, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
How about 14 June? Last Leeds meetup we just all got very drunk and didn't talk about Wikipedia very much - hopefully with your input this next one will be a much more focused event... If you can get the universities involved then that'll be great. Hope to see you there, Bazonka (talk) 23:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
But I like getting drunk and talking about things that aren't Wikipedia!! :D 14th June is great and in the diary - I'll sign up on the meetup page when it's up and as soon as we have a time I can share with friends and see if we can promote in the unis :D Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 09:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
It's up! [3] Bazonka (talk) 21:45, 3 April 2014 (BST)
How many Wikpedians does it take to organise a meetup! :P 14 June is a long way away, but I'll be there if I can. I'll see if I can drag another Midlander or two up with me. Harry Mitchell (talk) 01:00, 4 April 2014 (BST)
Perhaps I should go for your two-days notice technique, eh Harry! ;) Bazonka (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2014 (BST)

How many people do you think we're going to get to the Leeds meetup? So far there are only three people signed up. Have any of the people that you invited said that they're definitely coming? I think it's probably best if I book a table in the pub, and I need to have a rough idea of how big it needs to be. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 20:58, 8 June 2014 (BST)

I suspect that there will be 5 - 10 of us as I'm dragging out my friends :D Yes to booking a table I say! Also, Bazonka remind me - have we met in IRL? Only otherwise we're into wearing carnations in our lapels territory :D Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 10:31, 9 June 2014 (BST)
No, we haven't met. But I'll be bringing along my little Wikimedia banner so you should be able to find me. I'll wear a carnation too if that helps! Bazonka (talk) 20:48, 9 June 2014 (BST)
I might be dragging 1-2 extra along with me. It's not certain yet, but I'm still working on it! Chris McKenna (WMUK) (talk) 00:48, 10 June 2014 (BST)
+1 to carnations! Looking forward to this :) My friend is bringing her two year old so obviously we need to get him editing as an early recruitment opportunity :D Katherine Bavage (WMUK) (talk) 11:49, 10 June 2014 (BST)