Talk:Minutes 2014-03-08
Two points of clarification from Fæ
It should be made clear that I did not make a proposal to the Technology Committee, neither was I invited to take part in the Tech Committee discussion on what became their proposal. I put forward a Microgrant which was rejected.
I object to having my full legal name in the public minutes. My permission was not asked for this, and the Micro-grant proposal was under my pseudonym. Though as a past trustee my full name is in many locations on this website, I would prefer consistency, and I have reasons to reduce the use of my full legal name where not needed or where out of my control. --Fæ (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Fae - I have removed your name from the minutes and replaced it with "Fae" as a courtesy to yourself. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 12:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- The proposal was initially made as a microgrant request and transferred to the auspices of the Tech Committee with Fae's agreement. Fae was asked to join on-wiki discussion about the project proposal. Requests were made via email on 23rd January, 4th February, 4th March, and at various points on wiki between 23rd January and 3rd February. So far further input has not been forthcoming. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 14:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I asked for a clarification that I did not make a proposal to the Technology Committee. What has been said here supports this as a factual correction.
- It is incorrect to say "input has not been forthcoming" as I have provided my input several times on-wiki and by email, this is missing from the summary of correspondence above.
- Since I first started discussing the microgrant with Jonathan, I asked for the potentially least-cost shared option with other chapters to be reviewed. I have no reason to believe this happened. Not being invited to be part of the meetings discussing alternative options, I was under the impression that my views were supplementary. I provided my feedback on 23 January and have not changed my view, it seems redundant to continue repeating that viewpoint, or to work on technical options further, once employees took ownership of the idea. It should be understandable to anyone why I have been given no particular motivation to spend my limited volunteer time reviewing a final, albeit only briefly described, done-deal solution, which has been agreed by others, including those being paid for their technical expertise.
- Being guilty of not repeating feedback, seems small beer compared to the recent public accusation of having an unparalleled "ability to lose friends [and] alienate people" in order to damage my reputation on other projects. However, as the current board of trustees has not distanced themselves from this unpleasant attack on my character by one of their own, I guess it is worth recognizing the benefit of not being allowed any opportunity to build a positive reputation for my volunteer work elsewhere, gives me more time and motivation to consider what needs to change in order to realize our original vision for the charity that I invested so much time in creating. --Fæ (talk) 17:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that your reply is entirely accurate, Fae: what has been said here neither supports nor opposes your view of the situation. That said, I'm sorry if you feel your views weren't taken into account. If you have issues with what individual volunteers have said on other wikis then I believe that you should take it up with them directly by email: I would like to keep this page on-topic: that is, discussing these minutes.
- As to the upload project itself, we'll look into how to progress a bit more over the next few weeks, when Tech Com's volunteers have had a chance to discuss it. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 18:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Tech committee chairing
I don't think it's true to say that the "tech committee ... [has] run into problems with chairing". I think the model of chairing that the tech committee has had (where a chair is picked at the start of each meeting) is absolutely fine. The remit is a different issue, though, and I don't disagree there. I really hope that we don't end up with staff in charge and making decisions though - that goes against the ethos of WMUK! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:50, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- The minute incorrectly stated this as a fact, rather than as the report of somebody's comment. I have corrected it to make it clear that this was what I said. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:05, 21 March 2014 (UTC)